TIAGO AMT Gasoline
DTC Troubleshooting Guide
Version: 2.0
Date: 06-06-2016
Author: Sathi/Anupama
Page: 291 of 424
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P184A- 01: Hydraulic Circuit Pump Timeout
Overview:
ISO Code
P184A-01
Customer Symptom
-
Fault Effects (On Vehicle)
May lead to delayed cranking
Lamp Status (If Any)
Transmission Fault Lamp ON
Fault Detection Condition
This fault gets detected after Ignition On when the time of
pump actuation exceeds a threshold.
Normal Operating Condition
Pump actuation time is usually within limits
Probable Trouble Area
kit
Healing Condition
Next power ON of TCU
Component Details:
In an AMT system, the hydraulic pump is driven by the TCU whenever the hydraulic pressure read by sensor drops below a
threshold. In case the driver requests gearshifts too frequently than normal driving conditions, the pump has to activate more
frequently and may lead to overheating.
Preliminary Checks:
1) Loose/ Damaged Connections of Electric Motor and TCU
2) Check for damage or back out of pins at TCU connector, electric motor connector.
3) Check visibly for kit Oil leakage and oil level.
4) Check Battery voltage and state of charge.
5) Check for mechanical damage to the gearbox loose or damaged valve body/TCU mountings, Hydraulic
tank/accumulator, Connecting pipes mechanical fitments
6) Check correct fitment of ground cable connections on vehicle chassis.
Trouble Shooting:-
Step Checks
IF YES
IF NO
1
Is the DTC occurring in combination with
- P0820/821/822/823/825,
P0945, P0942 or P2712?
Go to Step 2
2
At first occurrence of the problem, clear the
DTC and drive the vehicle in all gears for
about 10 km simulating /in real dense
traffic condition requiring frequent
gearshifts , does the DTC recur?
Go to Step 3
Release vehicle to the
customer after final drive
test
3
Check Hydraulic pressure sensor and relay
electrical connections by following same
P0932 & P185C
respectively, Are electrical connections
OK?
Go to Step 4
Establish continuity by
rectifying harness
connections as per the
circuit schematic
4
Using TCU diagnostic tool, initiate a
hydraulic pump activation routine and
monitor the hydraulic pressure, does the
pump turn ON audibly and hydraulic
pressure is 38-51 bar?
Clear the DTC and drive the
vehicle through all gears for 5
kms ,Recheck the above
steps if fault recurring
If No pump turn ON:
Go to Step 6
If Pump turns ON but no
pressure build up:
Go to Step 6
5
Check the Electric motor (refer DTC
P185C), are the connections and
grounding proper?
Replace the motor and
recheck step 3,
If problem persists Goto step
4
Rectify/Replace the motor




